Braves fans are setup extremely well. The six-year guarantee buys out Striders final two pre-arbitration seasons, all three arbitration years and what would have been his first free-agent season. If you want to be a continuing part of this Braves dynasty, youll need to give us a discount. Thats the reverse logic he was trying to calculate for, but that doesnt make sense! Not to sound too negative, since there are also positives in his hitting profile, but Id have concerns going too long term with him. Atlanta enters Saturday having lost three straight and is 2 games back of the New York Mets for first place in the NL East. Imagine if they wouldve locked up Soroka. Strider and Braves teammate Michael Harris II are very likely to finish first and second in the NL Rookie of the Year voting in either. Most pitchers do that. His club finished the season with an 88-73 record, finally winning the 2021 World Series, giving the team its first title since the initial victory in 1995. Theres risk for sure, but if AA is doing it (hes been notoriously risk-aversive since arriving) Im giving him the benefit of the doubt. Spencer Strider Rumors & News Bats: R Throws: R Height: 72 Weight: 195 Age 23 Seasons: 1 Salary: 570,500 Birthplace: Columbus, Ohio College: Clemson Rumors & News Videos Photos TalkingChop Feb 8, 2023 Daily Hammer Podcast: The Braves Could Feature Some of the Best Brands in Baseball The Braves arent getting a $100 ticket and hoping for either behind the dugouts or in the suite. If that happens this is even worse of a deal than it looks like at first blush. This. Why? Have a better case that shows why you would gamble paying $53M for three arb years to save $8M in free agency? I was a little shocked at how quickly and how high Striders pay jumps. Half these contracts wont work out. Why? Salary: All-Star: World Series: 2021 Atlanta Braves: 65--2022 Atlanta Braves: He made his MLB debut in 2021 and now plays for the Mississippi Braves, Gwinnett Stripers, Augusta GreenJackets, and Rome Braves. The lot of before money is hopeful at best. Atlanta Braves Newsstand Transactions Spencer Strider, This makes 0 sense when the Braves controlled him for 5 years through arb anyway. Morning after getting knocked out plus Striders dig at them a few months ago about not being as good as their record and stats showed meltdown city. Win win for both sides. =========================== Deferred payments and incentive clauses are not included. 4th year $30+ MM Max Fried who was a Super 2 player is going into year 5, third arb season (1 year of control after 2023) is due to make $12.2M in his second to last trip through arbitration an will have earned a grand total of $22.5M through 5 years. And 2.003 years is nowhere near enough to qualify as a Super Two. All four teams will provide unique challenges for the Braves. Thats the point but take it personal. Some thoughtful Dodgers guys on here too. Please login to leave a reply. Read the article, be not thought of as a moron or an imbecile who is led by his ignorance and unwillingness to gain knowledge, which should be pursued despite the clear lack of capacity for you to store in in your brain! Theyre both at hpme.. And Strider got lit up, choking in the only important game hes ever pitched in. The idea that getting only modest performance for $20m in the last 3 years of the deal will hurt the Braves much at all, though, doesnt follow. Albies was banged up this year but his $35M contract was earned in basically a year and a half. The inability to stream in market is a significant issue. Im a Braves fan who believes that there are plenty of fans of other teams who have common sense, knowledge, and good manners. Actually they did.. Youre ignoring hes going to be Top 3 in the ROY so hes going to get granted an extra year of service time. If he has any hope of living up to this contract, Strider will have to play the whole year on the MLB roster for 2023 without injuries. He would have gone there if the contract offer was higher. Which is probably why they didnt. Practically anyone who can browse streaming TV services in the first place can do it. He didnt go to the Yankees because he was a Yankee fan. Hes the steady eddie kind of player that gets under valued by fans. He will fall off before he ever gets those record numbers. @Run. They paid $75 million for $102 million worth of his services based on your numbers. Anyone who signs Judge will definitely regret that deal in a couple years! Strider will make $1 million each of the next two seasons and $4 million in 2025. Strider will be top 2 in ROY voting. No one here, or elsewhere, has any idea how that process is currently going w/Swanson. By Steve Adams | October 10, 2022 at 11:03pm CDT. As of January 2022, 23% of starting pitchers in MLB and 26% of all pitchers have had TJ surgery. Every FA in Swansons class is going to be more expensive than he will. Sure Ks make more money, but his control years should be as follows if he doesnt fall off at all: 2023: minimum Neither Strider nor Harris II were ranked in the top 100 prospects by the media outlets that MLB is using to qualify rookies for increased service time and teams getting extra draft picks. By 9:30 a.m. Logos were compiled by the amazing SportsLogos.net. Maybe MLB realizes that they werent actually racist. The sum he agreed to when being selected by MLB teams has not been made public. They are paying $44 million max for both years and its likely that a single season of a TOR starter in 5 years will cost close to that much. If you think he deserves his contract, you are as tone-def as you are capable of catching a pun! Spencer frequently posts images of them hanging around and having the time of their lives. Not at all. Winning is irrelevant. Position players tend to be better values when extensions are considered, especially in terms of injury risk. Its one thing to find a new way to add money for the young guys, its another to say Julio Rodriguez should get a bigger 1st arb year because he was better two years ago. I think that $40M is more like $45M, So they paid him a bonus of $25M in order to obtain a 1+1 extension for $22M + $22M, with a $5M buyout. Strider will be a Super Two if he stays on the MLB roster all of next season, so that would have raised his prices in arbitration by a huge margin. Very much doubt it. The only IF is whether hell stay healthy and productive enough to earn the money. $2M (2024) Amateur career [ edit] He made $8 mil last year and $17 mil this year. Look at post-season history over the last twenty or thirty years, and youll see the Braves usually getting the day games. Spencer Schwellenbach, RHP 10. Not a fan of it, but thats the way it works. But this deal also looks ok for the Atlanta ball club even if you factor a 20 percent likelihood of a derailing injury midway through the deal. Youd think some of these young Braves players would want to bet on themselves by waiting a few years. Wrong bonuses are aside from the yearly contracts and have nothing to do with arbitration contracts either in setting the floor or adding to the annual amount. Hes expected to get 12 mill next season as an arb 3. Soto put up an .853 OPS and 149 OPS+. He could easily see $17m, 2om after this down year, then 28m. Spencer Strider was born in Columbus, Ohio on October 28, 1998. On the other hand, thats a trivial concern when juxtaposed with the benefit of having so many high-end players signed for the next six-plus seasons. Without me teaching you how trade valuations are correctly built, I cant debate with because I think so, I have to explain how I got that answer. 2nd year $14.75 mm, Swansons best year is his contract year, and even then its only a 115 OPS+ (when 100 is league average). All I see is people talking about record setting arb numbers without providing examples with any math. That could really escalate the arb figures. To say theres no way they avoid the luxury tax is ridiculous. Click For Complete Top Prospect List for 2023 1. He was on the major league roster all season. 7 Cubs pitchers combine for no-hitter vs Machado, Padres, Top moments from Brady, Manning, Jordan and other athletes hosting 'Saturday Night Live', Fantasy baseball rankings, projections, strategy and cheat sheets, Rangers' Leclerc to miss WBC with neck injury, Rockies' Rodgers may need surgery, '23 at risk, Rojas to withdraw from WBC, stay with Dodgers, Braves' Strider (oblique) to have start skipped. Hes a big union guy. Olson, Riley, Harris, and Strider are all reasonable balances between risk and reward for both the players and the team. League figured him out quickly. Worry about your own team of aging stars and average players. Question, Comment, Feedback, or Correction? Its also worth noting that Fried might take the offer Strider just got as a giant slap in the face since hes been leading the rotation for years and won a WS for Atlanta, while Strider hasnt even pitched enough innings to qualify for the ERA title. Thats not how you run a billion dollar company, its just not and thats exactly what they did. No its not at all about that. I will let you do the math. So we are primed in the next 2 years ti go after anyone and hopefully alvarez and baty are legit to add to alonso lindor and whoever else. The fact that you dont know how Super 2 works, totally invalidates your opinion. Youll find that its a similar sounding word to allude. Braves righty Spencer Strider has been put on the 15-day injured list with a strained oblique muscle. For someone like me who can only watch my team on national broadcasts due to the unavailability of my teams cable channel at a decent price, getting to watch them on TV (instead of settling for the radio like usual) a few extra times a season thanks to the Apple deal is great. Product executive enabling intelligent decisions through enriching and enhancing data and delivering it in awesome products. Strider opened the season as a reliever but then solidified Atlanta's rotation, helping the Braves win their fifth consecutive NL East title. Cohen would give his first born to have Strider. If Strider had 1.169 time on the MLB roster, then hed be a candidate for Super-Two next year, but hes got 1.003, so he wouldnt ever be classified Super-Two unless they send him down. Pitchers arm injuries are a real risk to wipe out a season or two. Well put DMC. You are probably not accounting for the adjustments with the new CBA. And because he will likely finish top 2 in the ROY balloting, he would have been credited with a full year of service time in 2022 even if the Braves had tried to Kris Bryant him. I see it as a risk vs. Acuna contract was great. All rights reserved. The Atlanta Braves have placed right-hander Spencer Strider on the 15-day injured list with a strained left oblique muscle. $12M (2025) CBA has no affect on arb money because the union wouldnt let a segment of their members benefit in terms of general contract negotiations. Was hoping this thread would continue without trolls insulting one another instead of adding actual substance to their argument. Lengthy extensions to position players I get. The Red Sox had the opportunity to do so with Betts, Bogaerts, and Devers a few years ago and blew the opportunity. It will cost money next year. They signed him to a lucrative six-year, $75 million extension on October 10. I know the first few years here are cheap, but still . 2 things: You need to check your info. Im sure it will be reasonably priced. But blowing a 7 1/2 game lead on August 7 and losing 6-7 to the primary opposition is absolutely a choke job. Luckily for . ET, many of these same folks were discussing an extension that could keep the rookie sensation in Atlanta until at least the 2028 season. Let's check, How Rich is Efra, Duane Theiss estimated Net Worth, Biography, Age, Height, Dating, Relationship Records, Salary, Income, Cars, Lifestyles & many more details have been updated below. The Apple TV games are absolutely free to watch, no paid subscription required and no blackouts on the service itself! Just like it wont be a collapse when the Braves get smoked in the playoffs. Striders dominance has positioned him as one of the two favorites for National League Rookie of the Year honors, as he and teammate Harris are widely viewed as the presumptive first- and second-place finishers in an extremely strong year for rookies (both in the NL and in MLB as a whole). They do not store directly personal information, but are based on uniquely identifying your browser and internet device. If they would have waited to sign him for two years, it wouldve made less than a $10M difference in his contracts at most, but it would have given the team an extra $20M to spend before hitting the cap. They are paying the suite price and hoping that they save the 10% fee for buying it at the window. If you swap those times it would be a 1pm local start in LA, at least this way its a 4pm local start in ATL. Thats only free agent contracts. This year they got a weak season from Acuna, and they won 101 games and the division.